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Postby under0ath » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:43 pm

hey guys. I have finally got next to zero traction left on the front tires. They were a set of 225 Michelins and they were not speed rated like the tries are supposed to be for our cars. Question is I need to get some new tires and I want to get the best for my dollar. I want a set that will help the performance of my car, not hinder it. I was curious if I should just get two tires or a set of 4. also what is the widest we can run in the front? My GTP is an '03 with the stock 16" rims

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Postby ArkanzanWheeler » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:49 am

I had 245/50ZR16's on my car when I had stock wheels and they fit fine. I went with the Falken 512's from Sears because they were cheap and Z speed rated and had a high enough load range for our heavy cars, just make sure you get the Z rated ones because people who get the normal ones complain that they are not that great. I would post a pic but someone links some of my Photobucket pics to crigslist and it exceeded the bandwith (that is why my sig is not coming up and everything).
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Postby under0ath » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:13 pm

hey thanks Ark, do you think I would be fine with two new tires or should I get a whole new set for the car? I want to make sure that I can get a good launch, as that is what kills me right now. When I go WOT right of the start I spin quite a bit, especially when the road is wet.
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Postby ArkanzanWheeler » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:03 pm

How bad are your back tires? If they are questionable then I would go with all 4.
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Postby under0ath » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:29 pm

the tires in the back are like brand new, so were the ones in the front when i first got the car, but I have had some fun with the front. Plus I could never get grip so when i brought my car to the track, it made for some serious burnouts.
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Postby DarkRelic » Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:09 am

<a target="_blank" title="http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?yr=2000&pc=35289&counter=1&ar=50&rd=16&vid=004142&sw=false&cs=245" href="http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?yr=2000&pc=35289&counter=1&ar=50&rd=16&vid=004142&sw=false&cs=245"> </a>The problem is, you are very limited by a 6.5" rim. Although some are successful at running a 245 tire on a narrow rim, there are those who actually have the tire "pop" off durring hard cornering, or emergency manuvers.

-245/50/16 rim will be 1" diameter too small and will throw off your speedometer
-If you are running a tire that's that much smaller in the front, and stock size in the rear, it will throw off your ABS/traction control system
-If you are only changing the fronts, I would suggest getting something with a diameter of 26.6"-26.7" for tires.


<a target="_blank" title="http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+G+019+Grid&partnum=26HR6G019&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes" href="http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+G+019+Grid&partnum=26HR6G019&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes"> Bridgestone potenza G009</a>
I ran these tires on stock rims, they are stock size and I absolutely loved them. They are an all season, but held up for just under 60,000 miles before I replaced them until my alignment came off (I couldn't imagine how with the way I corner) and wore them un-eaven in the last 3,000 or so miles. They are great in the wet weather too.

<a target="_blank" title="http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+A%2FS+Plus&partnum=26WR6PSAS&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes" href="http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+A%2FS+Plus&partnum=26WR6PSAS&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes"> Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus</a>
I know guys who run this on road races (where slicks aren't allowed) and they seem to hold up really well. If I was running stock sized again, this would be my next choice. The price isn't bad either.

If you want to run 245/50/16... I suggest you replace all 4.
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Postby ArkanzanWheeler » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:35 am

That was another reason I went with the Falkens 512's, they were one of the few that listed the wider tires with the 6.5" wide rims: <a title="http://www.falkentire.com/Tires/ZIEX-ZE-512-13" target="_blank" href="http://www.falkentire.com/Tires/ZIEX-ZE-512-13">http://www.falkentire.com/Tires/ZIEX-ZE-512-13</a>
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Postby under0ath » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:44 pm

so do you both think I would be ok with the Falken 512's? I might just get a whole new set of tires just to have at least for the summer, turns out I have a slow leak in the rear left anyway. Judging by the picture Ark, looks like they have a pretty good tread. I am just trying to upgrade my take off more then anything. I am sick of spinning even from 30 kp/h
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Postby DarkRelic » Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:27 pm

I can spin mine still if I floor it before 30mph (not 30kph) and I have 30lb wheels with 245/45/18 goodyears.

you would seriously need slicks to accomplish that feet, followed by a new transmission or CV axles if you are lucky
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Postby ArkanzanWheeler » Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:03 pm

I went from GoodYear Eagles to those and it was a world of difference. The GoodYears would start slipping while I was cornering fast which got me mad and they would start spinning at about 1/2 throttle. The Falkens gripped a lot better but if you want to spin them you still can, it just takes a little more throttle...
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